tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post115129339918830177..comments2023-10-26T03:26:53.959-07:00Comments on Suebob's Red Stapler: Where does the money go?SUEB0Bhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16301963922769609715noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-1151512885435955472006-06-28T09:41:00.000-07:002006-06-28T09:41:00.000-07:00Ditto! (And sorry I ramble so much. You inspire ...Ditto! (And sorry I ramble so much. You inspire words to come out of me.)Suzannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16279999850117456433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-1151471228801628812006-06-27T22:07:00.000-07:002006-06-27T22:07:00.000-07:00Thanks, everyone, for sharing your stories. It mak...Thanks, everyone, for sharing your stories. It makes me feel less alone.<BR/><BR/>Holly - it is definitely time for you to bust out your own blog. I can feel it coming.<BR/><BR/>Suzanne - I can't wait to meet you in person in San Jose.SUEB0Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16301963922769609715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-1151440692139199072006-06-27T13:38:00.000-07:002006-06-27T13:38:00.000-07:00Holly is right: America is in big, big trouble som...Holly is right: America is in big, big trouble some time soon. the rich get richer and everyone else is fucked. Thanks, Bush administration, for blowing a gap between the rich and the rest of us into a bottomless chasm. Fuckers.<BR/><BR/>That said, I am very fortunate to be doing OK. My husband and I both make good livings, my husband enough so that I am going from a well-paying (for my industry, anyway) job to a well-paying part-time job and a likely to fail attempt to be a writer of some sort in my non-paid time. I often feel guilty about it. It's all fucked up because I grew up in a struggling working class family in a very wealthy community and I have serious class issues. I am pretty much the class I hate and always feel the need to justify it and explain how we are different from the "other" assholes. Does it matter if your heart (and your wallet) are in the right place? Still, the people who live in my co-op who are my age have incomes and assets that scare me. How the fuck did they get so far ahead of everyone else? Oh, family wealth...<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I know how damn lucky I am, and I appreciate everything I have. I worry nonstop that we don't save enough, but the fact that we can save at all means we are doing fine. I just think about all the times I had to put back groceries when I was a kid because we did not have enough to pay for them...Suzannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16279999850117456433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-1151435809378626522006-06-27T12:16:00.000-07:002006-06-27T12:16:00.000-07:00Yes- love the inner shitty committee comment. Boy ...Yes- love the inner shitty committee comment. Boy do I ever have one of those. Mine works overtime pro-bono. <BR/><BR/>I am a huge frugal penny pincher. I teach, my husband farms, and we have twins. Nuff said. <BR/>We shop @ Aldi's, yard sales, and don't really have any debt other than our mortgage. However... if you looked at our bank account, you would think that I have a closet of Jimmy Choo shoes and Coach purses. I don't know where it goes. <BR/>I HATE carrying a balance on my credit card. If I have one.. my inner shitty committee just loses it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-1151384176093143842006-06-26T21:56:00.000-07:002006-06-26T21:56:00.000-07:00I just keep thinking that money grows on trees so ...I just keep thinking that money grows on trees so I keep looking for the money tree to start growing in my backyard. Still nothingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-1151381102506560852006-06-26T21:05:00.000-07:002006-06-26T21:05:00.000-07:00We had a biz go bust and that's when it "hit the f...We had a biz go bust and that's when it "hit the fan with us." It has taken years to get out of the monumental mess we were in. But we emerged alot smarter about money. And now we save -- something we didn't do before that.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08527762200993175239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-1151375115146417932006-06-26T19:25:00.000-07:002006-06-26T19:25:00.000-07:00Christina said it succinctly: many average people ...Christina said it succinctly: many average people are growing poorer everyday, whether they realize it or not. They're kept afloat by debt and that debt masks and furthers their poverty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-1151373725962452542006-06-26T19:02:00.000-07:002006-06-26T19:02:00.000-07:00We lived in debt for awhile, and then we pulled ou...We lived in debt for awhile, and then we pulled ourselves out and lived in the positive (other than student loans) for awhile. Now, however, we're back in the negative and falling fast. <BR/><BR/>I think the average person is becoming poorer every single day. Trickle down economics doesn't work, despite how much W and his rich buddies try to make us think it does.Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07345875955750219033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-1151364854046300352006-06-26T16:34:00.000-07:002006-06-26T16:34:00.000-07:00When I married my husband almost six years ago I w...When I married my husband almost six years ago I was in an enormous mess in regards to money. I don't know how it happened. I am smart, successful, I even majored in math, but I couldn't handle the money. I think the problem for me was that I felt that I deserved all the nice things that everyone else had.<BR/><BR/>When we got married, my husband is in the service and was stationed in Italy. I sold everything I had and even then couldn't pay off all my debt. I showed up in Italy with two suitcases, a nine year old daughter and a big black hole of debt. He paid off all my debt. I was so humiliated. <BR/><BR/>But, from that day until this one I no longer buy things just because everyone else has them. We don't carry any credit card debt. However, living on a military base in Japan means that we don't have a house payment, a car payment, electric bill, etc. I hope we will continue to be able to keep our heads above water when we move back to the US.Marshamlowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00604324969370405697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-1151349534373966292006-06-26T12:18:00.000-07:002006-06-26T12:18:00.000-07:00goon squad sarah, your finances are supposed to ge...goon squad sarah, your finances are supposed to get away from you. Everywhere you go, people want to lend you money. Then more money. There was once strict standards for loans. Now, nearly everyone is loaned money. They want servitude, I say. They want people to be serfs, even if those serfs live in big houses, for those big houses can be illusion: too many of those big houses owned by banks, which are owned by rich folks. If the economy collapses, and there are soooo many ways that can happen, the rich folks that own the banks will take the big houses, the cars, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-1151348893058839362006-06-26T12:08:00.000-07:002006-06-26T12:08:00.000-07:00I used to always operate at zero. We would spend a...I used to always operate at zero. We would spend all of our money every month, and if I had an unexpected expense I used to play off my credit card in two months at the very most.<BR/><BR/>Now I have two kids and a big house and I feel like our finances have just gotten away from us. Like you, my husband makes more now than he ever has before. I'm not sure what happened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-1151348084161754162006-06-26T11:54:00.000-07:002006-06-26T11:54:00.000-07:00Shitty committee. Hahaha. As far as money, I don't...Shitty committee. Hahaha. <BR/><BR/>As far as money, I don't obsess, at least, not anymore. I have all my bills on auto-pay and that's a good way to not obsess. But now that I'm unemployed, that's all about to change. I have to stop practicing the ostrich dance.MrsFortunehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17326242993598760618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-1151345605760321402006-06-26T11:13:00.000-07:002006-06-26T11:13:00.000-07:00Annelynn, do you live in Wisconsin? If so, we sho...Annelynn, do you live in Wisconsin? If so, we should do coffee.<BR/><BR/>I loved your correlating consumption and tuberculosis. A former prof said that there are no coincidences in the words we use and choose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-1151337053356777172006-06-26T08:50:00.000-07:002006-06-26T08:50:00.000-07:00Annelynn, as the rich get richer, the poor drop in...Annelynn, as the rich get richer, the poor drop into deeper and deeper debt and servitude. Too many Americans own houses larger than they can afford and more cars than they can afford. Last year was the first year since the Depression that the country had a negative savings rate. And BushCo has borrowed about 2.5 trillion dollars, which undercuts the dollar evermore. <BR/><BR/>And what are we told?<BR/><BR/>Spend! Borrow! Be merry!<BR/><BR/>Consumption is a sickness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-1151327365521805552006-06-26T06:09:00.000-07:002006-06-26T06:09:00.000-07:00I put my money in a big hole. It might even be a b...I put my money in a big hole. It might even be a black hole. The universe makes it so that I can pay my bills (including minimum payments on credit cards) and very few extras. This is a good system, and it's been the same my whole life. I figure when I start making more money and thus depositing more into the hole, it will work out to be exactly the same. I'm not getting calls from creditors or resorting to begging on the subway, but I'm not buying new shoes anytime soon.super deshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04347176046518919059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-1151323376116394312006-06-26T05:02:00.000-07:002006-06-26T05:02:00.000-07:00Give something away... And what you need will have...Give something away... And what you need will have room to arrive. Weird but effective...Janet Eveninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07407146817595399665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-1151294348281564332006-06-25T20:59:00.000-07:002006-06-25T20:59:00.000-07:00I make less than $10,000 a year, so I don't have t...I make less than $10,000 a year, so I don't have to wonder where the money goes. Money has to come before it can go. But what you wrote is the canary in the cage. Hard times are coming for many Americans. Too many Americans have been seduced into debt. They are already strained. They'll buckle with further rises in fuel prices...or downsizing. Luckily, <BR/><BR/>I get a kick outta small things: it doesn't take much to make me happy. And I try to squeeze as much out of my lawn as I can: 13 kinds of berries, nuts, veggies, etc. In a few years, the maple trees are also have to do a spring sap shift. America is going to become a poorer nation and this might not be a bad thing if it reconnects us. I think consumption has always been a poor substitute for community.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com