tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post1279994989800745078..comments2023-10-26T03:26:53.959-07:00Comments on Suebob's Red Stapler: Oh what a feelin'. Peel me off the ceiling.SUEB0Bhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16301963922769609715noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-33950617444620818972010-03-17T10:27:28.718-07:002010-03-17T10:27:28.718-07:00I really like the comment "Azucar" left ...I really like the comment "Azucar" left on Cjane's post. She summed up my feelings on the issue quite nicely. I'm different from, not worse/better/less/more than!<br /><br />..."I think the trouble comes when [people] decide that "not equal" means worse than, less than, and value-less.<br /><br />Different, not equal, is OK. <br />Worthless, not equal, is not OK.<br /><br />And that's why I'm a feminist: because we're not less than.<br /> <br />And...I dislike being treated like I'm less than because I'm a woman. And I have been. I don't want girls growing up to think they're less than.<br /><br />Then again, my dad brought all his kids on camping, adventures, and trips, because we're all worth the same. Different, but the same."Kristennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-24350189830167881162010-03-14T14:19:00.756-07:002010-03-14T14:19:00.756-07:00First:
Hey, SueBob! I am on vacation so I finally...First:<br /><br />Hey, SueBob! I am on vacation so I finally have time to read your blog and breathe a little. I hope you and yours are doing well.<br /><br />Second:<br /><br />What an unfortunate piece of writing from the unequal marriage partner. If she wants to be less than her guy, that's her business, but must she oppress the rest of us? I am your age, so I remember your list very well. But let's face it, right now some guy is kicking the shit out of his girlfriend because he can. My neighbor's husband of 30 years just left her and she doesn't have the dough to keep renting the tiny house and she doesn't know where to go. And if a woman gets pregnant, whether she has the baby or not, who is responsible? Whose body? Whose money? Oh I am sorry I gotta go. My husband wants a blow job.Lucyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16077879580340640337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-16312725012854373672010-03-11T15:18:29.703-08:002010-03-11T15:18:29.703-08:00WORD, Suebob.
Best last two lines of a post, EVAR...WORD, Suebob.<br /><br />Best last two lines of a post, EVAR.the new girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02947910641549198688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-27078250417827031772010-03-11T14:50:13.971-08:002010-03-11T14:50:13.971-08:00Right on, sister. I went to look at CJane's p...Right on, sister. I went to look at CJane's post and her commenters now total 600 plus. Judging by some of ones I glanced at, I think the entire Mormon priesthood is motivating her.ByJanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10540902996183063666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-48740850076305637892010-03-11T09:58:52.519-08:002010-03-11T09:58:52.519-08:00Absolutely! If "I am not a feminist because.....Absolutely! If "I am not a feminist because.." is followed by anything other than "I don't like women", then the person saying it is utterly naive.Oliviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01828516083662339236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-71867163210282512252010-03-10T17:36:35.342-08:002010-03-10T17:36:35.342-08:00Thank you for bringing this up, Suebob. I don'...Thank you for bringing this up, Suebob. I don't often read CJane because I don't really like it, and now I am sure I don't!<br /><br />Very sheltered and naive, indeed.Mary@Holy Mackerelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04026873878364041551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-43471932659855321632010-03-10T06:07:19.548-08:002010-03-10T06:07:19.548-08:00Right on, SueBob!!Right on, SueBob!!Glennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03681336164718681936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-64659257033661215572010-03-09T19:29:36.117-08:002010-03-09T19:29:36.117-08:00Hoo boy - well said! I haven't read the origin...Hoo boy - well said! I haven't read the original post, but my absolute pet peeve is young women who take for granted all of the freedom they have that was won for them by their mothers and aunts.Carrie (in MN)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-61817056060254675942010-03-09T15:33:23.060-08:002010-03-09T15:33:23.060-08:00i read this earlier & couldn't comment, bu...i read this earlier & couldn't comment, but came back via suzanne/cuss to read the comments.<br />i got all shivery (both angry & proud)<br />my mother applied for and passed the police exam with flying colors in, i believe 1974 and there was only one other woman at the time. it wasn't my grandmother & my father's concern for her safety that made her choose another path, but the harassment of her peers and superiors.<br />for that reason, & so many others, i am happy that we are no longer in that era, but there is so much more to change.marhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17974936666312566850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-3568524483574529122010-03-09T14:37:39.858-08:002010-03-09T14:37:39.858-08:00Great post. I am a proud feminist, who will consid...Great post. I am a proud feminist, who will consider myself a complete failure of a mother if my any of my three daughters ever tell me that they are not feminists.Anjalihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03942336985162828835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-12686831462227612272010-03-09T13:38:49.639-08:002010-03-09T13:38:49.639-08:00I'm at the age where a lot of the improvements...I'm at the age where a lot of the improvements had already started to come to fruition. I was also extremely fortunate to have female forebears who insisted upon doing things that most women of their time just didn't do.<br /><br />However, I remember my journalist grandmother telling me about being paid less than her male co-worker. When she complained, her boss said she had a husband to support her so she didn't need more money. She also spent much of her career in the "lifestyle" ghetto of the paper, although she managed to eventually break out.<br /><br />I also remember my mother talking about having to deal with open sexual harassment from clients.<br /><br />So yes, I am an unequivocal feminist and always have been.Average Janehttp://averagejane.blogs.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-8686585934713850432010-03-09T13:28:17.795-08:002010-03-09T13:28:17.795-08:00Thank you Suebob. I find it still so very alarming...Thank you Suebob. I find it still so very alarming that, in 2010, I still hear men say, "I can't go tonight because I have to stay home and <i><b>babysit the kids.</b></i> I NEVER let the opportunity go by without saying, very disingenuously, "Oh! Whose kids are you babysitting?" When they invariably answer, "Huh? Oh, mine." I say, "I don't understand. Who is paying you? What do you mean "babysitting?" How exactly do you "babysit" your very own children?"<br /><br />How many times have you EVER EVER EVER heard a mother say that she is staying at home to BABYSIT her own children? <br /><br />Exactly.<br /><br />NEVER.<br /><br />First, <i><b>WE</b></i> have to value and demand it. Obviously, some of us have some work to do.Nancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17627214346956206283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-4418363694461110322010-03-09T13:24:42.699-08:002010-03-09T13:24:42.699-08:00Truthfully, I really did not know much of this. I...Truthfully, I really did not know much of this. I am nearly 39, born in 1971 and I must have just missed this crap of which you write (I thought we were the same age!)<br /><br />Good points and respectfully written. Sometimes, it is better to just write your own damned post instead of jumping into comment streams, eh?Cagey (Kelli Oliver George)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13691589813815058981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-83921801939367115032010-03-09T12:20:23.710-08:002010-03-09T12:20:23.710-08:00ROCK ON SUEBOB!ROCK ON SUEBOB!Suzannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16279999850117456433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-64206492177897205462010-03-09T07:05:24.398-08:002010-03-09T07:05:24.398-08:00I don't think CJane has had enough experience ...I don't think CJane has had enough experience in anything, and thus her screwy view. She is too young to have had to miss out on much because of her gender. <br /><br />I totally agree with Thordora that Vaginas are often wasted on the wrong people.dedehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00669101675604750486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-63095283939393025962010-03-08T13:36:06.112-08:002010-03-08T13:36:06.112-08:00gah. I don't necessarily always identify with ...gah. I don't necessarily always identify with feminism (and that's more of a third wave issue than anything else, and a long rant I won't bore you with here.)<br /><br />that was a bunch of ick.<br /><br />My daughters will never know a world where girls DON'T play Olympic Hockey. Or vote. Or go to school. Not if I can help it. That's fricken equality-and I'm a feminist by THOSE rules.<br /><br />Vagina's are wasted on some people I swear.thordorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04162106158955358865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-53269574174330975222010-03-08T12:54:03.552-08:002010-03-08T12:54:03.552-08:00Oh, thank gawd I don't have to be the one to s...Oh, thank gawd I don't have to be the one to say, "Well, she lives in Utah, and isn't one of those pesky feminists, so I am assuming she's Mormon." I know it's bad to make generalizations, really, I do, but yeah, when dealing with fundamentalism, there is no way to have a debate. And Mir summed it up brilliantly.<br /><br />We're in the middle of a backlash, and I blame it on the Tea Baggers. lolJessicahttp://thesandchronicles.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-41847430263100350002010-03-08T12:01:18.499-08:002010-03-08T12:01:18.499-08:00Good points, well written, etc., etc., but what ha...Good points, well written, etc., etc., but what happened to the header with that handsome man???angel apologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09810409543139172153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-65479929935911015502010-03-08T11:19:32.831-08:002010-03-08T11:19:32.831-08:00I was going to add something along the lines of: &...I was going to add something along the lines of: "mumble, mumble, Mormon, mumble, mumble". But i see that's already been taken care of (and more eloquently).<br /><br />I agree, Suebob, I definitely agree. However, I don't think you're going to change her mind with the birth control / abortion options / transgender points. Again, what with the Mormon.<br /><br />Notthattheresanythingwrongwiththat.clairehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00251854992291809671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-85780296216860730982010-03-08T10:55:05.502-08:002010-03-08T10:55:05.502-08:00Well said.
I have heard this "I'm not a ...Well said.<br /><br />I have heard this "I'm not a feminist because" crap a lot lately, and it's driving me nuts. It comes from a blinkered and privileged position. Wage disparity between males and females is greater now than it was 20 years ago and access to gynecologic and reproductive health care has dropped. Do we still need feminism. Hell, yes! Women's rights were not a short fight that once won are a given. 100s and 1000s of years of oppression is not overturned within a century.Elan Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03023867307505601913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-92096268132801235602010-03-08T05:02:52.945-08:002010-03-08T05:02:52.945-08:00Amen, Suebob.
I know many lovely Mormon ladies. S...Amen, Suebob.<br /><br />I know many lovely Mormon ladies. Some of them I admire greatly. But Mormonism incorporates an inherent gender inequality that is spoon-fed to the women as godliness and virtue, and that -- coupled with a level of sheltering that is so complete that folks like like CJane don't even realize exactly how shielded from some of the world's realities they are -- is the perfect storm for one of them to innocently proclaim that they just don't understand why anyone would even want equality.<br /><br />Needless to say, I don't agree with her. But damn, that level of naivete must be nice, huh?Mirhttp://wouldashoulda.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-22036023829442920042010-03-08T02:45:38.339-08:002010-03-08T02:45:38.339-08:00Great post! I commented quite early on in Courtney...Great post! I commented quite early on in Courtney's post and was interested (and shocked, appalled and disheartened) to see how the debate unfolded. Particularly when people started saying that they didn't know why everyone was getting so angry over it all :S It was good to see some other feminists among her readership though. I made a blog post which was sort of a response too.Hannah Mudgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367085612049349757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-43399068672499005822010-03-07T22:09:39.587-08:002010-03-07T22:09:39.587-08:00All I can say to that is I am very glad she's ...All I can say to that is I am very glad she's not on my side because: DAYUM.CharmingDriverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842393622023537966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18820173.post-78033924274478143582010-03-07T20:17:49.975-08:002010-03-07T20:17:49.975-08:00Hoo boy. Someone wanted some attention today! That...Hoo boy. Someone wanted some attention today! That's one way to get it! <br /><br />I am glad that my partner and I evaluate and re-evaluate our relationship on a regular basis to see how we're doing. I think it makes sure things are still running great.Kimhttp://www.prosaicparadise.comnoreply@blogger.com